Sunday, November 12, 2017
Saturday, November 11, 2017
Extending the Season - We're Past the Freeze
We had our first real freeze in the greenhouse today. Temp was 17 °F-37 °F today, with the windchill in the upper teens. I walked in around 10am to find the hoophouses at 45°F and a lot of ice around the place.
These overnight temps were too much for some and right at the edge for most, even under the floating row covers. We have about another week of near freexing lows and then if we don't have more hoophouses, we'll either have to move the plants (i.e. take them home, or the high school greenhouse....) or we'll lose them. It would be a shame to lost the edible flower plants like calendula, and love in the mist; not to mention the dye plants like the indigo and french marigolds!
So far the microgreens are going pretty well. The second round of seeding (where we went with half a 5g scoop per flat) a lot of sprouting! So it took like a week-10 days instead of 3 days for seeds to germinate, but even just under our minimal effort plastic covers, they sprouted well.
The first round of seeding (2 flats from 10/20) were ready to harvest.
The day was all about shoring up the hoophouse benches with more compost and bales and move as many flats of microgreens into the hoophouse. While were on site working today, we also built up some heat with a little greenhouse heater we purchased last year.
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By 4pm we were able to get the temp up to nearly 60 °F
Then to move as many microgreen flats as we could, I remembered I had this old (10-12 year old) cheap greenhouse shelving unit that has survived 4 moves and all the winters and all the summers...anyway, its various parts are in various conditions, not sure it could ever be its original self again. So we used the parts to build shelves, allowing us to fit more flats in immediately.
Last thing we left a jug of hot water in the hoophouse to keep the temperature change buffered after sunset.
Friday, November 10, 2017
We had this giant volunteer tomato plant growing up through the greenhouse floor. Grew to be about 6' tall and kept churning out giant tomatoes...Right up until today that is. With temps forecast as low as 19oF, and today's high of 33, looks like the winter finally brought an end. We grabbed all the greenies!
Thursday, November 9, 2017
Through a psych-out February, drought like September, stormy wet cool July and two weeks of flirting with freeze temps, these knock out roses have bloomed three times this year. And still today with buds yet to open. It's like a metaphor for all the ups and downs @sciencestache has had through the years homesteading this piece of earth. ❤️ never once have I pruned these to enjoy the blooms. Tonight I stopped to smell those f*%#ers! 🕊❤️ and 🌹
Wednesday, November 8, 2017
Testing Germicides: Disinfectants vs. Antiseptics vs. "Natural" cleaner
Continued from https://theorypracticelandscaping-kfrye.blogspot.com/2017/11/we-got-experiment-running-5-cleaners.html
- Lysol
- bleach
- hydrogen peroxide
- isopropanol
- Thieves
After being incubated for 48 hours at 37C, each tube was observed for growth determined through the amount of turbidity (or cloudiness).
THIEVES (25, 50, 100 %)
Growth was observed in all three concentrations, however the strongest concentration (100%) had significantly less turbidity and the bacteria was clumped. Controls were good: positive controls both had turbidity and the negative controls were clear (no growth).
HYDROGEN PEROXIDE (0.1, 0.3, 3%)
Growth in all three concentrations and controls were as they should be.
BLEACH (0.01, 0.1, 1.0%)
LYSOL (25, 50, 100%)
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| Each concentration was observed and rated for E. coli growth: G for growth (turbidity aka cloudiness) NG for no growth |
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Overall the Lysol is the most effective bactericide, but there are a couple of issues here:
So the Lysol eliminated all observable growth at each concentration (I guess 99.9% according to the claims on the label) because its main biocidal ingredient is benzalkonium chloride, a compound with recognized toxicity as well as irritant to human skin, respiratory and gastrointestinal systems to name just a few down sides. This stuff is strong and good at making cell membranes no longer function as membranes. To put it today's current political context, this would is your "nuclear" option.
So if you need near sterilization - this is your choice. And the clearest choice from this experiment, no context!
Here's the more nuanced part however, Lysol is a disinfectant, so is bleach, and you can see from the results that even bleach at high enough concentrations killed the bacteria (also keep in mind the highest concentration of bleach used in this experiment was 1% compared to Lysol's 100%). These two germicides are meant for surfaces because again, you would experience adverse affects such as severe irritation and tissue damage for instance if you applied Lysol or bleach to try and treat an open wound.
The isopropanol and the hydrogen peroxide are antiseptics and used intentionally on living tissue and at much lower concentrations than the Lysol (e.g. highest at 50% and 3% respectively vs. 100% Lysol) because they are not as caustic as the disinfectants; their biocidal capabilities increase with increased concentrations, lower concentrations however can still be bacteriostatic, that is prevent growth and reproduction of present bacteria rather than kill all the bacterial cells.
Now the Thieves...the 2 dilutions (50% and 25%) definitely had typical-looking growth with high turbidity, but while the 100% Thieves had some growth (the tube on the right in photo below), the growth did not cause much turbidity. I also noticed in the 100% tube, the cleaner seemed to create a kind of floc out of the bacterial growth - its was clumped in the middle rather than being dissolved and suspended evenly through the broth.
 CONCLUSION
In terms of which cleaner is best, it just depends on what you want from your cleaner. If you are looking for near/nearest to sterile conditions you can get without antimicrobial gassing or using ultraviolet light in your kitchen, Lysol is easily the choice based on these results; you can even dilute the Lysol by as much as 25% and still maintain the biocidal effects. It is indeed the cleaner your grandparents said it was and there's a reason clinical settings use it today.
If you are using Thieves and you want it to be the same as Lysol, you are out of luck. It's just not.
Some folks however are more interested in just effectively reducing bacterial populations without going near sterile and in such cases, bacteriostatic agents may be a more appropriate choice.
If though, you just want to tilt the landscape against the bacteria, Thieves is okay...just maybe don't dilute it to try and stretch it out.
There are also people who choose not use an agent like Lysol in the home because of the implications of leaving behind the 0.1% of bacterial populations Lysol does not kill (remember Lysol only claims to be effective on 99.9%) and the potential effect this contributes to issues of antibiotic resistance. Keep in mind this is just one replication run by a small college class. We do this every semester and we can run it again or any other cleaners readers suggest! We could even try the raw ingredients listed in Thieves next time. Notice also that we only ran this on bacterial species E. coli rather than adding a second bacterial species S. epidermidis as the lab manual lists on the data table (above), which brings up the issue of what type of bacteria you are interested in targeting with your cleaner. Both E. coli and S. epidermidis are normal microbiota found in the gut and on the skin respectively and require opportunistic situations to become pathogenic (e.g. introduction to abnormal place on the body, cuts and other wounds, altered levels of bacterial populations throughout the body, etc.). This supports the disinfectants in this experiment for use in the bathroom, but perhaps in something like a kitchen application, it may make more sense to test more commonly known food-borne bacterial species and/or fungal species instead of S. epidermidis. Just things to think about. Anyway, I predict those who were using Lysol before reading this continue to do so. Likewise for the Thieves camp! Stay tuned, more on this come spring. One reader has already suggested adding the ever popular Mrs. Meyer's cleaner, so I've already put it on the list. Would you like me to run all the germicides at the same (at least more similar) concentrations next time? Let me know! |
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